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Ravenel endorsement smells like burnt waffles, lacks maple syrup

April 4, 2007


Both The State’s official blog – “S.C. Politics Today” – and Dan Hoover of The Greenville News have reported that first-term South Carolina State Treasurer Thomas Ravenel will endorse former-mayor Rudy Giuliani’s bid for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination at a Thursday morning press conference. This struck us as very odd given that Ravenel was elected on a conservative, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage platform – which stands in complete opposition to Giuliani’s record.


Giuliani’s past favoritism for abortion is notorious. Just yesterday we posted yet another YouTube video revealing the “real,” very much pro-abortion, Rudy Giuliani.

So why is Ravenel – who has marched in anti-abortion rallies and attacked Democrats over the issue countless times – aiding a pro-abortion candidate? From the April 25, 2004 edition of The State:

Another Republican candidate, Charleston developer Thomas Ravenel, has attacked Democratic candidate state Education Superintendent Inez Tenenbaum on the issue.
Tenenbaum opposes partial-birth abortion but has lobbied for pro-choice groups in the past.

Ravenel also supported a Constitutional Amendment banning gay marriage.

Former state Attorney General Charlie Condon, U.S. Rep. Jim DeMint, Charleston developer Thomas Ravenel, and former Gov. David Beasley said they support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

Ravenel said he supports amendment legislation sponsored by Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., which defines marriage as between one man and one woman and allows state legislatures to have the final say on related issues.

Giuliani on the other hand has said that he’s perfectly comfortable with the “pro-gay marriage tag.” The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza noted:

In the back and forth of a competitive primary campaign, Giuliani’s liberal (by GOP standards) positions on abortion and gay marriage are sure to become common knowledge to Republican voters. For many of these voters, outlawing abortion and gay marriage are at the foundation of why they are Republicans, and they simply will not support a candidate who does not agree with them on those hot-button issues — no matter how revered that person may be in other spheres.

And we won’t even get into Giuliani’s anti-gun rights record.

What the heck is Ravenel thinking?

There are a few scenarios here. Ravenel could be trying to slip one by the conservative base that elected him; with the hope that if the Giuliani bandwagon miraculously begins to writhe – inch by tiny inch – out of the stall, he can ride it far enough to temporarily fulfill his ambitions for higher office.

Ravenel could also be trying to re-position himself for a likely – unsuccessful – 2008 U.S. Senate campaign.

Or perhaps Ravenel flat-out lied to voters to get elected. Maybe the “real” Ravenel, like the “real” Rudy, is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage and anti-gun rights.

But it is also possible that Ravenel just admires Giuliani and, as such, wants to imitate the man… by continuously changing his position on key issues.

Regardless, we doubt the conservative base will forgive Ravenel’s treachery assuming he does endorse Giuliani. No matter how he tries to spin it, by supporting Giuliani, Ravenel is arrogantly opposing the alter-ego he presented voters last fall; the one the people of South Carolina elected treasurer.

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Giuliani changes position on partial birth abortion, again, part deux

April 3, 2007


In yet another YouTube-afforded “gotcha” moment, we unearthed a few clips spliced together showing a complete reversal of former mayor Rudy Giuliani’s position on partial birth abortion. The three clips from interviews on CNN, Meet the Press, and ABC reveal a little more of the “real” Rudy.

CNN clip: “No I have not supported [partial birth abortion] and I do not see my position on that changing.”

Meet the Press clip: “I would vote to preserve that option [of partial birth abortion] for women.”

ABC clip: “All of my positions are firm… I do not think it makes sense to be changing your position…”

And to think we believed Romney had the market cornered on Northeasterner flip-flopping for 2008.

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Giuliani faces further scrutiny

April 3, 2007


Coming off a very rough past week, Rudy Giuliani surely prayed that the dawning of a new week would offer some reprieve. Unfortunately for Giuliani however, stories revealing the “real” Rudy continue to surface.

First, it was discovered Monday that his third – and current – wife Judith was involved in a program that killed innocent puppies to test controversial medical-supply products.

“It was a horribly cruel, outrageous program,” Friends of Animals President Priscilla Feral said about the demonstrations of medical staplers on dogs conducted by U.S. Surgical Corp. employees during Giuliani’s tenure there in the late 1970s.

Feral said U.S. Surgical’s demonstrations on hundreds of dogs each year through the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s were done to boost sales, not for medical re search or testing.

The dogs were “either put to death following the sales demonstrations because they can’t re cover from them, or they die during them,” Feral said.

“I’m not going to characterize her, but I hope she regrets it for what it was – a money-grubbing effort,” said Feral, whose Darien, Conn.-based activist group waged a heated public-relations battle with the Norwalk-based company for more than a decade.

“I guess the question would be, how does she justify this now? What is her conscience at this stage?” Feral asked about Giuliani’s association with U.S. Surgical.

“There’s no ethical justification for this.”

And then Tuesday TPM Cafe’s Eric Kleefeld cited a piece from the Charlotte Observer regarding a controversial abortion ultrasound bill – that could very well “turn the S.C. primary” – and noted that Giuliani’s failure to support the measure could sink his hopes of winning the S.C. primary.

Stories like this one make one think that it’s only a matter of time before the reality of Rudy’s social liberalism catches up to him in key conservative-dominated primary states — in this case, South Carolina.

… Rudy has just become the only one of the key GOP candidates to fail to endorse a bill making its way through the South Carolina legislature that would discourage abortion by mandating that a woman seeking one first view an ultrasound of her fetus.

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Candidates differ as S.C. considers abortion law

March 18, 2007

An article in The State Sunday discussed a proposed piece of legislation that would require all women seeking an abortion to view an ultrasound image of the fetus. This controversial law would be the first of its kind in the U.S.

Some states make ultrasound images available to women before an abortion, but South Carolina would be alone in mandating that women see the pictures.

Proponents say women would change their minds after seeing an ultrasound and choose instead to keep the child or offer it for adoption.

To reduce abortions, women need “as much background as possible when they’re making decisions,” said Oran Smith, president of the Palmetto Family Council, the state affiliate of Focus on the Family.

The article further compared the field of 2008 Presidential candidates on abortion, gay marriage and gun control – citing those issues as “key indicators of how palatable a candidate is to religious conservatives in South Carolina.” Here’s how the GOP frontrunners stacked up:

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani: for abortion rights; opposes gay marriage but favors civil unions; favors some gun control.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney: once favored abortion rights and gay rights; now opposes abortion rights, gay marriage and civil unions; has supported some gun control.

U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.: anti-abortion, but has taken different positions on the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling, which legalized abortion; says he opposes gay marriage but voted against a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage; has given conflicting statements about civil unions; opposes gun control.


McCain spoke Sunday in New Hampshire on the issue of abortion. From the Boston Herald:

”I am a pro-life person. That’s been a solid 24-year record,” [McCain] said. ”I have not changed my position.”

”I have been an advocate for human rights — having been deprived of them for a period in my life — from Burma to Bosnia to China to Cuba, and I believe human rights also extend to that of the unborn,” said McCain, who endured years of torture and deprivation as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani supports abortion, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has faced criticism for switching his position on the issue.

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